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Yottabyte
Cantbecanit
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Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

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The model I'm using is a 750GB 6GB/s model.

Now, this drive is no harder to configure than any other traditional HDD, iirc I had it fully installed with Win 7 64 in around 40 minutes including the driver loading that follows the O/S install.

So basically you simply insert your Win disk in the optical drive, install the XT and boot holding F12, next up select the optical drive (DVD) to boot from.

Next you will get your set up screen, (if using XP and possibly Vista you may need to load the 3rd party driver that Windows asks for during set up F2 iirc, this is the Sata driver and unless it's installed if needed you won't see the HDD in Windows at the next step, Win 7 has the driver already) when you arrive at the partitions screen simply instruct it to do a quick format and wait a few minutes until Windows moves on installing.

Come forward to the install completing and you have your fresh O/S, load all the drivers you require from the MB set up disk and any utilities you fancy, AV advisable if you don't want an accidental malsite installing a doorway for itself.

Now get the latest Intel RST driver and infst autol driver's if using an Intel based MB, don't rely on the ones on the MB disk, they will be out of date.

Next install your graphic and sound drivers if using dedicated cards and re-boot.

You should now get a fully working O/S that will now be looking for updates, allow this to happen to bring your system to date and install any programs you require, and a general boot time I've found is around 40 seconds, I expect it to improve as the drive learns though, but it's still a fair bit faster than the normal HDD boot time.

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Now there are some differences to this drive over an SSD.

1 - Is that as the drive gets older it learns and gets faster, you can look on YouTube for Linus tips where Linus explains this fully, he is a very good source btw, ok he has that kid squeak voice, but the guy is A1 imo, you just have to get past the voice initially :->

2 - Is it's a very small form factor drive, it is basically a Laptop drive but it's also slimmer than a normal SSD by half, and I'm using it as a main drive in a full PC desktop (spec of PC below)

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Below you will find some screens I've done both when I first installed it and later after a few weeks use, I've been delayed writing this up by a death in the family, but I need to get this done for the company.

As of yet I've not studied the results for comparisons data, I will when I get time, but I just wanted to get something up here for both purchaser's and potential purchaser's because this drive is ideal for such cases like the Silverstone Raven R3 if you like me want to use it as a PC drive.

 

Any screen you can't read simply copy it and open and enlarge it at your end, and yes that burst rate really is 340.



 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Now so far I'm very pleased with it, don't buy one if you expect a full blown SSD drive, this isn't one, it's a trade off between having an SSD and also having enough room for some large game file installs as well, it runs very cool as you can see from the screens, this time it has no fan blowing across it and it's simply not generating the sort of heat a HDD does.


SYSTEM SPECS


Win 7 64 Bit
XT 750 6GB/s
Gigabyte GA-Z68 XP-UD3P
Intel Sandybridge i5 2500k (stock cooler not clocked, YET!)
8GB Gskill DDR3 C7 memory
MSI Nvidia 560Ti
SB X-Fi Music
OCZ 600w Stealth X Stream
Antec 900
Pioneer DVD-RW Sata
Compro 750T DVB-T Card
IcyBox Trayless Hotswap Bay




Only you can decide if it's for you, but I would imagine on a functionality basis it's the best thing you could do to your laptop to improve it without having externals hanging off it.

Now as I'm gaining sections to service here I'm going to do a little help before you ask thing, and if you do have problems still PM direct if you haven't had any answers, be aware though I can only answer what I know and I will need your full system specs, so no specs, no replies I'm afraid as I'm not having enough time to make a dozen suggestions before we find out you only have 8MB of memory and the company that made the PC stopped trading 6 years ago, and yes it does happen.


Self help

1 - Install HD Sentinal to obtain a health rating and general condition rating.

2 - Blue screens - Re-seat all HW in the PC and check lead connections at both ends.

3 - Pausing - This is normally either #2 or a driver, normally the MB ones rather than add on ones.

4 - Check for FW updates, be sure to get the right one if one is available, you can ask me to confirm before you flash.

5 - Funny noises - Clacks are normally a dead drive, as are clicks, however clicks can be bad PSU power, other noises are generally case resonance so take it out and if it stops you know it is sound transfer.

6 - Dropped it and it doesn't work, sadly this is normally instant death, any HDD should be looked at as if it's glass, they are that fragile.

7 - Othe things to try are swapping data cables and ports, always try to re-load drivers if you think you have an issue, a driver is very easy to uninstall by accident and also real easy to break so it no longer does it's job.

8 - Sometimes one bit of software can stop another, a remedy for this if you are having issues is to undo your net connection so you are offline and re-install drivers with the firewall and anti virus switched off, switch on before re-connecting to the net.

9 - If all else fails, caress it and tell it you love it and you'll never leave it, tell it it's special and the only HDD for you and that one over there with the large TB's means nothing to you ;->

Ok, that's it for now, I will update the thread from time to time with more screens showing how it's going, hopefully this will be as far as you need to go, if you did have a problem and this sorted it please post to say so, I did a barracuda 3TB one and there has been hardly any help me calls about one since, lets hope this is the same, not everyone grasps electronics easily, I understand that, so if that's you follow the guide slowly and methodically and hopefully you will be up and running in no time, all the best folks.

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

 

 

The special characteristics of the Momentus XT mean that conventional benchmarks like HD Tune produce results that are not necessarily comparable or accurate.

 

 

Yottabyte
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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

That may well be true, anyway as you seem to have an interest, any back up advice is most welcomed by myself so fire away with additional info as and when you have it.

 

 

I'm going to add a couple of links for those seeking info as well

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKUYVVPWN8I&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL6050C7F8C024EF04

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nML8XmT16Rw&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLDD2D2C9E039707AE

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

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WiseDrive wrote:

 

The special characteristics of the Momentus XT mean that conventional benchmarks like HD Tune produce results that are not necessarily comparable or accurate.

 


 

The special characteristics of the internet service provider mean that conventional benchmarks like testing latency or bandwidth produce results that are not necessarily comparable or accurate.

The technical issues was discussed at length on this forum... google for the links.
http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentus-XT-Momentus-Momentus/SSD-vs-Hybrid-Issues-Benchmarking-Hybrid-...
http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentus-XT-Momentus-Momentus/Method-for-Measuring-Hybrid-Hard-Drive-Pe...
http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentus-XT-Momentus-Momentus/Momentus-XT2-750gb-review-at-Laptop-Magaz...

http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentus-XT-Momentus-Momentus/David-Burks-Product-Marketing-Manager-Sea...
vs. conventional attempt to use traditional HD benchmark tools:

 

(Edited to condense, for easier reading.)

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mbze430
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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

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I just installed a Momentus XT 750GB today in an older laptop.  Replacing an old 5400RPM Toshiba 250GB SATA DRIVE.

 

Did a brand new install with Win7 SP1.  I have to say that I HAVEN'T seen a big difference other than benchmark #s.  In real world, I haven't seen anything that I would say, "wow".  

 

My HD Tune benchmark were almost the same as the OP screen shots(+/- 3 to 7).. so I know it's running "right".

 

Anyway, I just wanted to add a suggestions on the "future" write cache firmware for this drive.  PLEASE allow an utility to specify which programs/apps that has priority using that 8GB (7.5GB after Fast Boot), instead of using some 'AI logic' / algorithm.  Let the owners' of the drive to pick what they want to speed up!

Hopefully someone from Seagate will read these forum.

 

Yottabyte
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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

 I cant imagine how you've not noticed a near 2 minute boot time become 35 seconds, check you have all your drivers installed correctly and ahci mode enabled and finally the drive does learn and become faster with more boots.

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

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Here is a good review from the lad Linus.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nML8XmT16Rw&feature=relmfu

 

And this for speed comp

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-dtDVxQYnA&feature=related

 

says 51 seconds but this is in a laptop, hooking it to a desktop with an i5 in it results in around a 30 second boot.

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide. - on a MacBook

I'd like to comment on my experience having just installed a Momentus XT 750 on my 2008 (Unibody) Macbook.

I simply followed the YouTube link offered by the Seagate site on the Momentus 750 Overview page.

1. I bought the drive through Amazon UK and was surpised that it came with no box and no literature but appeared new and unopened. I had also bought an external 2 1/2 inch drive enclosure (IOMAH).

2. I first installed the Momentus drive in the external enclosure and then, using the free 'Super Duper' disc- cloning program simply cloned the 250Gig Mackintosh HD - leaving it copying overnight.

3. In the morning the laptop booted up as normal and showed the Momentus 750 cloned and well.

4. I then swapped the Momentus from the external case to the internal drive position (several alternative YouTube videos show how) and put the MacBook's (Toshiba 250 G) drive in the laptop.

5. It booted up first time in under a minute and appears to be working exactly as did the previous drive, but with three times the space and, hopefully, some SDD bonusses yet to be seen......

 

Ironically the only hickup has been that the Toshiba drive from inside the MacBook seems a fraction too big for the external enclosure .... ( I plan to use it as a backup drive)

I principally use the laptop when I'm travelling - I take photos at jazz events ( www.gordonsapsed.com) and the laptop has a role with Lightroom and Photoshop when I'm away as well as blogging.

I hope it will learn, apart from speedier startup,  to get the Adobe products booted up faster, although my main interest in upgrading the disc was to simply have more internal disc space and SDD is a bonus.

I wonder if it's possible to 'encourage the learning' by offering a few clues about which apps should have priority - or is it a lot smarter than me at really finding out such things?

 

Gordon

 

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide. - on a MacBook

'typo' - sorry in point 4 of my post. I, of course, put the Toshiba drive from the MacBook in the external case - although, as I said, it doesn't seem to quite fit. The Seagate Momentus fitted perfectly!

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide. - on a MacBook

how it stands up, nearly a year old now,

 

 

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Re: Momentus XT 750 Set Up & Help Guide.

Installed in Inspirion 1750, trying to install Windows 8, it asks for the driver as you noted for 7. I put the driver on USB drive, it shows up, but get message that there are no new drivers. Installation fails.