Barracuda XT, Barracuda, Barracuda Green, DiamondMax and other desktop SATA and IDE drives

[vasilij]

for all the evil you have done to people I wish you all my heart mapping fall into heck.
I hope those words come true so you do not bring anyone harm or evil in the land multiplied

[Hammey]

Hi its not nice to post stupid stuff so. I guess your one of the people that has no idea how to backup your important data and have lost all your files and want to blame others how old are you 5.

[Cantbecanit]

Thx Hammy, it is amazing how many ppl will blame a product because they either don't understand it or mistreat it.

Ok there have been issues in the past, the 11 series drives had the bricking, the 12 haven't yet ppl still instantly think it's bad FW, other's try to Raid without checking the class of Raid their MB supports and also buy an Eco drive and expect an Enterprise ones performance, and again don't check to see what class the drive supports, the cheap ones are Raid 0 & 1, but still ppl try to use Raid 5 & 10 with these drives and wonder why it doesn't stay stable.

What people should ask themselves is would they sit in a sauna all day and feel fine afterwards, that is what they do to a HDD when they fit it in a small case with 1 exhaust fan and supply grey power from a $2 PSU, but try getting anyone to understand that.

I don't like to say this and perhaps I shouldn't, but to the OP, you know where WD are, go try them, pay more and face the same issues, otherwise find some class and stay here and when issues do crop up we will try to help you willingly.

[muchkysledja]

Hi, on 31.10.2011. I bought st2000dl003 with 3 years warranty declared by the seller. After seeing some posts I checked Seagate warranty and it showed only 2 year warranty. Now I see all Seagate drives being sold with only 1 year of warranty. Not much confidence in own products,eh?

[Cantbecanit]

Lots of variables with that mate, depends which country, OEM or Retail version, and if you bought with 3 yrs warranty you get 3 yrs warranty unless where you bought from has lied to you, then that becomes an issue with them not Seagate.

[muchkysledja]

Actually only variable is Seagate warranty period. Country is the same, all drives are oem yet in two months warranty dropped from 3 to 1 year. Oh, I forgot prices that went berzerk but dropped significantly in the meantime, still being pretty high. I have contacted importer and they said that I will have 3 year warranty but that is not the main issue here. In past 6 years I purchased only Seagate hdd-s and I came to this forum after last purchase, and believe me if I saw before now 20 pages long post about st2000dl003 I would never buy Seagate let alone that model. I don' say other manufacturers are better but for me as a person who trusted Seagate I find their behavior unexceptable.

[Cantbecanit]

OEM is always 1 year mate.

RETAIL is the 1-5 year period.

You buy OEM cos it has no box or accessories and is cheaper.

[muchkysledja]

Having you as their most active representative on this forum (you being volunteer and not their employee) speaks itself how much they care about customers. Where are the Seagate experts who have access to inside information what's going on. Moderators on this forum are doing what? Mostly giving advice about RMA. Now some facts: in Croatia ALL hdd-s being sold are oem (seagate, wd, hitachi, samsung). All Seagate drives I bought are oem and all with 3 yrs warranty. If oems are 1 year then why warranty checker showed 2 years. If my drive fails (asus p8z68-v pro, scythe 750 w psu, cm haf x case, drive on intel sata 3 port connected with sata 3 cable) what will you tell me? Hdd-s worked without problems in cheap cases with no cooling and with **bleep**ty psu-s for years and now are dying within months. I believe manufacturers are cutting costs and producing cheaper and less reliable drives which are more sensitive. We can only guess...

[Cantbecanit]

I think you are correct Much, they don't seem to be a resiliant as they were, but looking at your rig I doubt you will have any issues anyway, half the time the stuff dies is because it's not hooked in with the correct stuff to compliment it, what they don't say when they post is how they have tried to run a 2TB drive on a 220w 8 year old PC in a one fan case, not all obviously.

So far my record with using Seagate/Maxtor is one brick which I fixed myself, one dropped early 250GB Maxline which now just whines and won't do anything, another 250GB which is now showing 0% health in monitoring but is 7 years old iirc, an old 120GB ide Maxtor that recently went clacking in the kids machine, a machine I'll add that is a sweatshop in metal, one I purchased before I knew any better, another 40GB which is in the sweat case now, I don't care because when it fails it fails, a working Freeagent and the 3TB which is a magic drive, had it around 8-9 mths now and it's still tip top, so overall if they are as bad as some like to say I wouldn't buy them anymore, and the only drive I've ever had completely fail on me within 3 mths was a WD one.

As for me being active on here it's because it's a community forum not a support forum, I don't say I'm an expert but I have sorted a lot of folks problems out for them, the mods are only really here to ensure fair play tbh with the odd bit of help if they have time, one thing you must realise is I'm 1000's of miles from a lot of people and I only have what they say to work with, if I was in the room I could say, broke or not set up right, I start with the simple stuff because who wants a full engine rebuild when it was simply a spark plug, tech moves along fast now and it's a job to keep up, I've bben out today and upgraded my rig to i5 so I can test the 3TB @ 6GB/s and see if any of the problems appear for me, but without it what can I say having never used the latest bios etc, I just try to help, and when I see titles like this I don't think it represents the company in a true light, the guy who posted it obviously isn't from an English speaking country and some of the support around the world is poor I admit, particularly the Asia India area.

As for OEM I was always led to believe it was 1 year and you got it without a box, maybe it's different now, if the checker says different then thats a bonus, anyway if you ever need help I will try to help you, not that I think I will need to because looking at your rig you seem to know what to choose and that normally means you won't treat it like an old car you don't care about.