06-22-2011 06:48 PM
06-23-2011 08:33 AM
I had this same problem when I took the device on my train commute. When I tried it in my office both before and after this it worked. Since then I've been fighting with getting media onto the drive, so haven't used it wirelessly since. I think this problem goes along with the general flakiness of the GoFlex Satellite. It seems to work when starting up cold, but then develops issues.
06-23-2011 11:37 AM
A few items to check.
A) What is the state of the battery? If the battery light is red it needs to be charged.
B) Where were the iPad and GoFlex Satellite located when the video dropped?
Keep in mind that the range of the Satellite is only about 150 feet (not factoring in walls). So if you wandered away from the unit you might need to relocate it.
Also make sure you don't have the devices right next to another wireless transmitter like a cordless phone base unit, your network router or a microwave.
06-23-2011 12:56 PM
A) My unit is fully charged - the light is green. Trouble is the tramsmit light is also green with only an occasional blink of blue.
B) The unit is right beside me, 6 inches from my iPad.
06-23-2011 05:14 PM
06-23-2011 05:23 PM
My iPad and the Satellite were within 1 foot of each other setting on a desk in my office. There were no other wireless devices in the area except my cell phone and no wireless network. The battery light on the Satellite indicated it was charged but I had the AC adapter plugged in and connected. I wonder if the other poster might have hit on something when he mentioned his drive worked good when cold but failed when it got warm. I have noticed the Satellite gets very warm when operating; enough so that I had begun to stand the drive on its side as a routine measure rather than lay it flat, as I do all my other portable drives. By the way, none of my other portable drives ever get warn no matter how much I use therm. However, the Satellite was exceptionally warm to the touch when it stopped transmitting the movie. I will try playing a movie again but will first make sure the drive is cold initially and set it in front of a fan to see if trying to reduce the heat will make a difference. If you are interested, I will post the results here.
Please do post your result. I'm very interested! the heat problem is what I think it might run into. I'm wondering how is the hard disk mounted inside the GoSat? i.e. any heat sink or some other way to dissipate the heat.
06-23-2011 09:36 PM
06-24-2011 12:08 AM
I think the heat is the problem, as suggested by poster jPad28. I set my Satellite in front of a large fan and attached the power adapter so the battery life would not be a factor. I tried to get an HD movie to play but it was no-go. It would play for only a second and then stop. I tried a regular movie and it played with no problems. After the movie I checked the Satellite and it was nice and cool; no warmth detected even in the spot that usually would get hot. So, on a hunch that all of the iPad's memory may need to be cleared and made available to play an HD movie, I powered down the iPad, waited a minute or so, and then powered it back up. Then I selected an HD movie and it played just fine--the Satellite was still setting in front of the large fan. On a whim, I started a second HD movie after watching the first one and again, no problems. I didn't care to watch another movie--it's almost midnight here--so, I played around with the high-speed scrub to access different parts of the movie. Again, no problems at all; it was as if I was watching a movie loaded onto the iPad. In the end, the Satellite operated for over four hours while being cooled by a fan with no problems at all.
So, my conclusions at this point are 1) that the Satellite has problems with heat after an hour or so of operation and 2) it may be necessary to shutdown and restart the iPad to be able to play HD movies. I realize this was not a formal test and it lacked the necessary rigor and controls, but it is enough to give me a warm fuzzy that heat is the culprit causing the problems I had previously experienced with the Satellite. I certainly hope the engineers investigate it and see if there is a solution, such as a bigger heat sink, or something.
That was a very good test! to me it did prove that there is a overheat problem with the GoSatellite without good ventilation. Thank you. The board inside plus the hard disk should generate a lot of heat streaming a lot of data in HD. It's all enclosed inside the box :-)
06-25-2011 05:13 PM
06-27-2011 05:46 AM
Yeah, it is the same with me.
I even have the great fun that the app does not find all my music, pictures and none of the movies I bought on Itunes.
When I try to search for the music the app shuts down.
Not happy. Not at all.
07-08-2011 11:20 AM
09-30-2011 05:46 PM - edited 09-30-2011 06:35 PM
THANK YOU for all of the constructive approaches to this problem.
I just puchased the Satellite the other day (along with an Acer Iconia tablet), and I too am keen on its possibilities for storage and streaming. But I too have had identical experiences:
Before I installed the firmware update I had serious problems streaming movies, or even maintaining prolonged connectivity - things would freeze, even though the blue broadcast light would keep blipping intermittently. After installing the firmware update I decided to test streaming two movies at a time (after all, the device allows up to 3 simultaneous users). Things went fine for about 1.5-2 hours - then both my smartphone and tablet just froze. I came to these forums and decided to put the HD on its short side, taking off the back cover and facing the SATA interface upwards. Almost immediately both movies started playing again...for a while. Then my tablet froze and my smartphone kept going...then both froze again.
As I write this both devices just froze again. The blue transmit light is still going steadily, but neither device seems to be receiving anything. Both have been within 10 feet of my Satellite at all times. I should also add that when things go pear-shaped I check the network connection; I'm still logged on to the Satellite network and the connection is still Excellent when these problems occur.
I would dearly love to keep this HD but its unreliability is making my heart sink and I'm considering taking it back...as a grad student I so looked forward to taking this with my tablet and PDFs to research on the go, but how can I trust my work to such an unpredictable device?
Oh yeah, one other thing...it's slightly annoying that this device is so geared towards the iPad that the troubleshooting videos assume everyone has one...
10-13-2011 07:39 AM
the dude's email address and domain name don't exist. i already tried to contact him.
aside from his claimed hardware mods, there's nothing he's done that people here arent working on anyway.
10-17-2011 04:07 AM
Yea, that commercial project of modding Sat still exists - I Emailed them before and I was answered with some unclear promising then, but now I have just recieved this:
10-17-2011 06:01 AM
Yeh, lets see what is next... For now by their ad Ive been encouraged to stop using minidlna, going to try killing those processes right now to see what happen.
10-17-2011 08:58 AM
look at their image here http://www.flickr.com/photos/68292799@N04/62135892
they have almost nothing running.
without ANY web interface this will probably be even faster. i literally jsut want samba 3 to run and nothing more.
i've already killed the satellite server, the dlna, the python and the lighttpd thing and seen no problem with running samba2 without that stuff in my quick experiment. the trick now will be to remove all that crud from root without deleting anything important in the process to free up as much space as possible on /.
10-17-2011 10:28 AM
I see....you're right, stable SMB3 features would be enough indeed even with the only own SSID.
So..., should we try to clean the flash from all the redundant staff for installing samba3 again? :-)
Or just wait?
Is there a reliable way to save/restore original flash BTW? I guess not if we can't connect to the device any way after a failing.
10-17-2011 11:01 AM
if you fill the flash completely i have no idea how to restore it. the normal refflash routine seems to fail once root is full, hence me returning my first drive.
JAmezquita on here told me about the command "df -h" which shows you how much space is left in the filesystem. the way i recovered from the failed attempt last night was by deleting a bunch of the libs in /opt/lib untill i had 6.5MB of space left on root and then i put the clean firmware image on the root of the hdd via usb and rebooted and let it reflash and it worked.
i've subsequently discovered that you can actually just delete the entire /opt dir and it will clear you back to basically the full 18.1MB of free space on the stock drive.
the ABSOLUTE KEY THING is that if you do get a "no space left on device" at any point, DO NOT DISCONNECT FROM YOUR TERMINAL SESSION AS YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO RECONNECT.
immediately either remove some packages or delete /opt and check with "df -h" that there is at least a few meg (i run with my previous value of 6.5mb as a working safe margin) left on root before you disconnect and reflash.
today i've been experimenting with removing stuff from the /satellite_app dir to free space (since thats all the webserver crud in there). if you just remove the dirs "www" and "webservers" you end up with 24+mb of space free on root (enough for smb3) but then on reboot the AP never shows up again so you cannot reconnect meaning there must be csomehting in those files called at boot that is required for the AP to function.
it's dinner time now so im gonna come back to it later this evening and see if i can find what those required files are.
10-17-2011 12:51 PM
Yea, the dude wouldn't ask for $35+10 if it were too easy. But if we already know how not to make a brick and the way for restoring after each attempt is simple I am sure we will find solution one day after... a good dinner :-)
So keep trying please.
10-17-2011 05:42 PM
did a crapload of detective work this evening. have the thing booting without anything at the moment which means apart from a select couple of files in /satellite_app/www/ which are pertinent to the wifi AP, the rest of the seagate stuff can pretty much get removed.
more work on it tomorrow probably.
10-17-2011 07:11 PM
can anyone tell me what all this junk is?
root@Hef's_HDD:~# opkg list_installed
alsa-conf - 1.0.23-r0.5
alsa-conf-base - 1.0.23-r0.5
alsa-lib - 1.0.23-r0.5
alsa-server - 1.0.23-r0.5
alsa-state - 0.2.0-r16.5
alsa-states - 0.2.0-r16.5
alsa-utils - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-aconnect - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-alsaconf - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-alsactl - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-alsamixer - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-amixer - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-aplay - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-iecset - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-midi - 1.0.20-r1.5
alsa-utils-speakertest - 1.0.20-r1.5
angstrom-version - 1:2010.05-r3.5
arago-feed-configs - 1.0-r8.5
base-files - 3.0.14-r94-arago1.5
base-passwd - 3.5.20-r1.5
busybox - 1.13.2-r26.1.5
busybox-mountall - 1.13.2-r26.1.5
busybox-syslog - 1.13.2-r26.1.5
cppstub - 1.0-r3.5
curl - 7.20.0-r3.5
devmem2 - 1.0-r3.5
dosfstools - 2.11-r0.5
e2fsprogs - 1.41.9-r23.5
e2fsprogs-badblocks - 1.41.9-r23.5
e2fsprogs-e2fsck - 1.41.9-r23.5
e2fsprogs-mke2fs - 1.41.9-r23.5
fbset - 2.1-r2.5
fbset-modes - 0.1.0-r4.5
gdbserver - 6.6-r2.0.5
i2c-tools - 3.0.2-r2.5
initscript-telnetd - 1.0-r1.5
initscripts - 1.0-r118.5
iproute2 - 2.6.31-r3.0.5
kernel-2.6.32 - 2.6.32-psp126.96.36.199-r61.5
kernel-module-ecb - 2.6.32-psp188.8.131.52-r61.5
kernel-module-output - 2.6.32-psp184.108.40.206-r61.5
kernel-module-pcbc - 2.6.32-psp220.127.116.11-r61.5
kernel-module-scsi-wait-scan - 2.6.32-psp18.104.22.168-r61.5
kernel-modules - 2.6.32-psp22.214.171.124-r61.5
ldd - 2.8-r4.5
libasound2 - 1.0.23-r0.5
libblkid1 - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
libc6 - 2.8-r4.5
libcom-err2 - 1.41.9-r23.5
libcurl4 - 7.20.0-r3.5
libfreetype6 - 2.3.11-r0.5
libgcc1 - 4.3.3-r4.5
libjpeg-tools - 6b-r9.5
libjpeg62 - 6b-r9.5
libpng12-0 - 1.2.42-r2.0.5
libss2 - 1.41.9-r23.5
libstdc++6 - 4.3.3-r4.5
libthread-db1 - 2.8-r4.5
libts-1.0-0 - 1.0-r23.5.5
libusb-0.1-4 - 1:0.1.3-r0.5
libusb-1.0-0 - 1.0.4-r1.5
libuuid1 - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
libvolume-id1 - 141-r21.5
libz1 - 1.2.3-r6.0.5
makedevs - 1.0.0-r8.5
module-init-tools - 3.4-r5.5
module-init-tools-depmod - 3.4-r5.5
modutils-initscripts - 1.0-r3.5
mtd-utils - 1.3.1-r0.5
ncurses - 5.4-r19.5
ncurses-terminfo - 5.4-r19.5
ncurses-tools - 5.4-r19.5
netbase - 4.21-r41.5
opkg-collateral - 1.0-r2.5
opkg-nogpg-nocurl - 0.1.6+svnr527-r21.5
pointercal - 0.0-r20.5
sysvinit - 2.86-r58-arago1.5
sysvinit-inittab - 2.86-r58-arago1.5
sysvinit-pidof - 2.86-r58-arago1.5
sysvinit-utils - 2.86-r58-arago1.5
task-arago-base - 1.0-r8.5
task-arago-console - 1.0-r13.5
thttpd - 2.25b-r7-arago1.5
tinylogin - 1.4-r7.5
tslib-calibrate - 1.0-r23.5.5
tslib-conf - 1.0-r23.5.5
tslib-tests - 1.0-r23.5.5
udev - 141-r21.5
udev-utils - 141-r21.5
update-modules - 1.0-r8.5
update-rc.d - 0.7-r1.5
usbutils - 0.86-r0.5
util-linux-ng - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-blkid - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-cfdisk - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-fdisk - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-fsck - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-losetup - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-mount - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-mountall - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-readprofile - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-sfdisk - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-swaponoff - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
util-linux-ng-umount - 2.17-r23.1-arago1.5
theres like 12 pieces of software there related to "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" there on a device that has no soundcard. Surely they can be removed right?
if anyone here can identify anything on that list that shouldnt be there or isnt essential please do.
10-18-2011 04:26 PM
yes, ALSA is audio subsystem which might be usefull for soundcard equipped computers only, they're completely redundant here. What a sh..urprise is to find such a rubbish in the tiny flash...
10-18-2011 05:26 PM
well its all a bit academic for me now as i just bricked my drive again.
my only hope is that whoever it is that runs hackseagatesatellite.com knows how to unbrick them.
10-19-2011 01:16 AM
really sorry, you are the best of us who tried to improve this bloody stuff. What caused the failure this time? I guess there were some initial processes which had been scratched accidently?
Have you already tried to contact the hackseagatesatellite guy? Yesterday I got a notice from him where he said:
The SMB module that we use is SAMBA3 and it is tightly linked to our paid version 1
10-19-2011 01:27 AM
believe it or not my drive somehow became unplugged from the mains by accident and just happened to run out of power in the moments that the root directory was filled.
absolute pain. pretty much gonna have to wait till the end of the month and buy a new drive. dont think there is any way at all to recover this.
10-19-2011 01:44 AM
Oh, there is a way to recover it's for sure, the Seagate guys easily fix such problems by means of connecting a brick to their special rack and writing firmware directly to the flash. the question is how long/much it takes
10-19-2011 06:20 AM
funny you should mention that.....
i opened the mother up this morning as some kind of therapy for my frustration at bricking it and found that there is a set of 8 or 10 copper contacts on the mainboard labelled "CN2" which, to me, means connection two and from looking at the tracks on the pcb it interfaces directly with the NAND flash itself. if thats the case then we might actually be able to access the flash directly via usb or something with some handmade cable assembly.
pretty certain the board is toast anyway so i don't have anything to lose (except the hundred and sixty bucks i already blew on it minus the cost of a momentus 5400 500gb - the drive inside these costs only like 40 quid) by experimenting with it now.
10-19-2011 06:55 AM
Yeh, man, you're really pertinacious, going deeper and deeper :-)
Yuo better go to www.Ifixit.com before. I have seen there lots of interesting things about inner investigations and taking to pieces
NC2 just stands for No Connection 2 I guess...
In this case it most possibly is used for intial firmware flashing indeed, but they use a special controller for it, not USB or anything you can find around.
Take some pictures of the chips and write down the numbers on them to be advised then by EE who work with flashing and firmwares.
10-20-2011 07:45 AM
BOY! that person from Singapore has really fixed this wireless hard drive and made it a fantastic device!. I wish someone over here could do the same thing. I would even pay $200.-$300. to get mine to work like that!. I wish Seagate would hire that guy and get the ball going on these fixes!
10-24-2011 07:13 AM
I've been working on the mod interface pretty much over the weekend and it is pretty much done and its
kinda ready to share with you guys...
the mod only consist of the required files and has an interface that goes along with it working off purely lighttpd. Its pretty fast and does not need any indexing to update. I've done my best to make it look pretty on iPads as i haven't had time nor the devices to test on iPhones or other devices. but as far as i have tested, all functions works pretty ok on Safari and have 98% working on Firefox... but hey, i have an iPad.. :-)
The list of features that i have written for what i call version 2 is available here bit.ly/niDIyn. while version 1 is pretty ok without lots of additions, i have really put a fair bit of effort into making the interface usable in version 2.
i really hope with all these effort, someone out there can finally wake up to see the potential of such a device and REALLY listen to what the users need.
Hang in there while we package the files up to share...
10-24-2011 03:40 PM - edited 10-24-2011 03:49 PM
OK, thanks, I just read the instruction provided and I am ready to start moding, but I wish it were in easy text format at least for commands (in red in PDFs) to be copied and then pasted. These "secured" graphic pages are rather inconvenient, you know... Moreover there is no copyright security in such way since any good OCR app with some manual afterwork would record it into text back easily.
It is time to start a standalone forum thread for your mods and discussions about,
10-24-2011 06:21 PM
There is actually a download link you can use to just download the PDF instead of reading it off the web. You can copy and paste the command from the PDF copy that you downloaded.
let me feed this back to see what can be done about this.. thks
11-11-2011 02:58 AM
I have upgraded my GoFlex Satellite firmware to the latest version and the performance still sucks due to intermittent freezing of OPlayerHD (which I used to play AVI or MKV files).
I found a good solution which greatly improve the stability of streaming and what's more do not need me to choose the goflex SSID (which means I can still surf the web at the same time).
I paid and downloaded a patch from the folks at hackseagatesatellite.com and now I can optimise the use of the device, which is what it orginally intended. Seagate makes good hardware but not really good at providing a good software or interactive experience.
Check them out.....
11-20-2011 09:02 AM
The alternative firmware folks just posted their Version 2.2 which has DHCP capability as well as Bonjour. SMB and WebDAV can now be turned on automatically at startup.. Really AWESOME! They listen and they deliver!!
12-26-2011 01:46 PM
12-28-2011 01:00 PM
I think you might have used the OPlayer wrongly. Without using the Seagate App, you can use OPlayer to browse the device and stream directly from it with OPlayer's built in browser.
Your method uses the "Open In" function which requires the entire media to be "downloaded" before you could open it.
12-29-2011 05:04 AM