Barracuda XT, Barracuda, Barracuda Green, DiamondMax and other desktop SATA and IDE drives

[BL_Maros]

Well Windows device manager shows 0, 1, 5. The bios shows 0, 1 and 0, 1, 4 when the secondary drive is installed. Neither show a number 3. I'll Be installing XP on the secondary drive to see how that goes down and repost when Im done.

Thanks for the help and quick responses this far!!

** Update / Edit: Stop Error 0x0000007B blue screen when I boot from my XP boot cd. Also my brothers western digital drive does the exact same thing when i try and use it as a secondary. 

Message Edited by BL_Maros on 11-28-2009 05:48 PM

[Grim0x]

When does the bios show "0, 1" ? I cant imagine this should be the case - when you have an optical disk as well, which is always connected. Does the bios list the DVD drive?

(good step testing it with your brother's WD).

XP shouldnt be giving you any errors on setting up. (you ARE doing this with One drive right?)

There's something in bios Re:HDDs that XP doesnt like, and vista requires on /off
What was it again. (Give me a few.)
-EDIT- 
**ah yes, I remember - toggle the ACHI / NATIVE SATA mode settings, try setting access mode to IDE**

We really need to get this tested with XP

Message Edited by Grim0x on 11-28-2009 07:26 PM

[BL_Maros]

Yes the dvd drive is listed as 1 in the bios, my master sata lists as 0 and the secondary im trying to use lists as 4 in the bios.

I'll see what i can do about getting xp goin, i didnt really mess around with it too much earlier.

[Grim0x]

*smack head*
I dont know what I wasnt getting earlier (no need for clarification where the bios's 0,1 / 0,1,4 is concerned).

Do that - and tell me how it goes.

[fzabkar]

BL_Maros, your question in regard to the download link for DiscWizard is answered here:

http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=Discwizard&message.id=339#M339

You are not the only one to miss the obvious. :-)

As for your SATA ports, my understanding is that the ICH10 southbridge in Intel's P45 chipset has 6 SATA ports, any of which can be used for eSATA. Any unused ports can be disabled. The fact that all 6 ports are identical would appear to rule out a driver issue.

See http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/p45/p45-overview.htm

"High-speed storage interface supports faster transfer rate for improved data access with up to 6 SATA ports."

"Enables individual SATA ports to be enabled or disabled as needed."

Your BIOS appears to be detecting and reporting the ATAPI devices rather than the SATA ports. Windows, OTOH, shows the ports/controllers.

I'm thinking that the port layout is as follows:

Port 0 - primary SATA drive
Port 1 - optical drive
Port 2 - disabled
Port 3 - disabled
Port 4 - secondary SATA drive
Port 5 - external eSATA drive

BIOS sees devices on ports 0,1, and 4, whereas Windows sees ports 0, 1, and 5.

I wonder if Windows is confusing port 4 with "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller". Would deleting the latter cause port 4 to be redected on bootup?

Here is Intel's datasheet for the P45 chipset:

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/319970.pdf

You also state that "the original drive has a jumper on two of the pins". This would be the 1.5Gbps speed limitation jumper. I'm not sure if it still has the same function on your 160GB drive.

Message Edited by fzabkar on 29-11-2009 04:43 PM

[Grim0x]

Good thoughts Fzkabar. I suspended reading up on his chipset (and motherboard) because I wanted to try letting him use XP first.
But thats an impressive bit of thinking except..

Not to throw water on Fbars fire but- I DO wonder why you suspect that the system is "reporting the ATAPI devices rather than the SATA devices"

- I dont believe his system HAS any ATAPI at all, but besides this - I dont see any listing of ATAPI devices under his Dev Manager summary.
Furthermore - The Intel P45 Chipset has no support for ATAPI period! :\ Its not a part of the feature set.

The system has listed controller, and its ports. In my view - The system really COULDNT detect/confuse port 4 of the controller... AS (being) the controller itself.

Message Edited by Grim0x on 11-29-2009 05:33 AM

[fzabkar]

Thanks for the correction, Grim0x. I should have written that the "BIOS appears to be detecting and reporting the SATA devices rather than the SATA ports".

BTW, that's called a brain fart. You'll get them, too, in 30 years' time. :-)

As for the Standard AHCI SATA controller, I thought that there may have been an Intel ICH10 SATA/RAID controller somewhere in the device list. Perhaps it would appear if RAID mode were selected in the BIOS.

Intel's tech note suggests that RAID mode is the preferred option:

http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imst/sb/CS-015988.htm

"If you are using a SATA hard drive, the best option is to set your BIOS to RAID mode. RAID mode provides the greatest overall flexibility and upgradeability because it allows your system to be RAID-Ready and also enables AHCI."

The tech note also explains the 0x0000007b errors:

"Enabling AHCI or RAID after installing the operating system may cause an immediate blue screen with an 0x0000007b error code, followed by a reboot. If you wish to use AHCI or RAID, they should be enabled before installing the operating system."

[Cantbecanit]

Ok coming in on the back of it, and I've not the time to read right through thorughly I can only suggest this right now.

Slave it to a PC that recognises it ok, and through Comp Management do a full format of the drive and assign it a drive letter, then swap it back into the lappy and see what happens, hth.

[BL_Maros]

Sorry guys! I've been busy recently. Sorry to say that I have not had time to sit down and try to get XP on the old hard drive to test that out. I could, however, try it on a virtual machine on my original HDD if that would help? but now that I think about it that would probably be pointless, nvm lol. Anyway I did flash the bios to the most recent and deleted the "Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller" out of my device manager. It's acting a bit differently now but nothing spectacular. I do have usage of my CD rom with the second hard drive installed now. I see two CD drive present in Diskmgmt.msc for some reason?

Disk 0

CD-Rom 0

CD-Rom 1

I still don't get why my bios splashes twice but I do notice differences. On the first splash if I enter the bios settings I see:

AHCI Port 0 (Hard Disk)

AHCI Port 1 (Atapi CD)

AHCI Port 4 (Hard Disk)

If I enter the Bios on the second boot I only see Port 0 and 1.

I tried RAID and Compatability mode and got a blue screen on both with my original / first HDD as master boot.

**Edit. Just tried my master drive in the slave slot. Works fine...Just wanted to test that. Don't know why I didn't try it sooner. Interesting note, When my original drive is in the slave slot it shows in the device manager as channel 4. With the CD as channel 1 and E-Sata as 5 possibly?

Message Edited by BL_Maros on 12-01-2009 12:00 PM

Message Edited by BL_Maros on 12-01-2009 12:13 PM

[BL_Maros · Accepted solution]

Okay, I win.

Some how. 

I locked out the eSATA port in the bios security settings and instantly saw the secondary drive in win7.