Barracuda XT, Barracuda, Barracuda Green, DiamondMax and other desktop SATA and IDE drives

[Cantbecanit]

This is a perfect example of diaguesstic programs, originally it was 39 days, now you've done what I said it's jumped to over 200 days, and if I was to bet I bet in 235 days time it's still working, you cant rely on these things as god.

I see you are going to send it in anyway, and the age is covered so worry no more about that, but try to use as intended and only go looking for faults if the drive plays up by freezing and black.blue screening, if the replacement is the same I'd recommend the PSU is replaced, any HDD that is getting fluctuating supply will appear faulty.

[nmoreira]

Canbecanit

In fact the drive that had 39 days of life has 34 now... The ST31000333AS... this one overheated (57ºc) but for some strange reason temps got back to "normal" (21ºC). Still the bad sectors number is rising (757)... this one i will try to replace, if possible by another brand drive... This one made Iomega look bad... Or even better, Iomega doesn't know how to make USB casings for external storage...

The other one i am going to keep until it dies... Don't think/know that the firmware update did anything to fix problem... Temp issues persists... But the outside temp is similar to other divres i have... Time will tell

Thanks so much for everyone's help...

[fzabkar]

There will be a boot delay before HD Sentinel can begin recording temperature data. However, the drive's own SMART firmware will have already recorded the temperature soon after power up.

ST31000340AS

190 Airflow Temperature 0691 35 30 00 35

ST31000333AS

190 Airflow Temperature 002A 16 0E 00 16

The min/max/current temperature readings for the ST31000340AS are 48/53/53 (= 0x30/0x35/0x35), whereas for the ST31000333AS they are 14/22/22 (= 0x0E/0x16/0x16).

Clearly something is wrong. :-(

[Cantbecanit]

Sorry, I read the red results and the ist set said 39 days and the later set said over 200 days, sorry if I read them wrong and it was different drives.

Ahh it's an external as well, temps could be due to the design of the case, be interesting to see what temps it runs out of the case.

[fzabkar]

A SMART author estimates a drive's remaining life by looking at how close certain life critical attributes are to their threshold values.

Reallocated Sectors Count 36 82 82 0000000002F5

Power On Time Count 0 99 99 00000000069C

The Power On Time Count has a value of 0x69C which is 1692 hours, in decimal.

The Reallocated Sectors Count is 0x2FC (= 764).

The normalised value has fallen from 100 to 82. This means that the drive has already lost 18 points, but still has 46 points to go before it drops to the threshold value of 36.

So the remaining lifetime can be estimated as ...

(1692 / 24) x (46 / 18) = 180 days.

[HughR]

Just to be clear, the estimated drive lifetime is based on some very simple mathematical model parameterized by SMART values.

I don't think that the model is worth very much.  The only good thing that you know is that the drive is saying "I'm not dead yet".

The disk health is bad.  If you value your data, get it off now.  I can think of few tasks in which this drive would be worth using.

[Cantbecanit]

Agreed.

[nmoreira]

Hi

Here's latest info

1st Drive

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ST31000340AS -> Barracuda 7200.11 -> Matrox Basics 1TB USB Case -> No longer in it's original casing

Same high temperatures inside it's original Maxtor case and inside my computer with fans blowing a lot of fresh air...

  -- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #0: ST31000340AS --

    Hard Disk Summary
   -------------------
    Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 0
    Interface  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : S-ATA II
    Disk Controller  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (ATA)
    Disk Location  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Channel 1, Target 0, Lun 0, Device: 0
    Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ST31000340AS
    Firmware Revision  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SD1A
    Hard Disk Serial Number  . . . . . . . . . . . . : 9QJ0MFB1
    Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 953867 MB
    Power State  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
    Current Temperature  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 52 °C (Overheat)
    Maximum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 57 °C, 10-03-2010 13:57:45
    Minimum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 49 °C, 10-03-2010 13:12:06
    Maximum Temperature (During Entire Lifespan) . . : 63 °C
    Power On Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 194 days, 6 hours
    Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : 260 days
    Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ########------------ 40 % (Acceptable)
    Performance  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)

    Problems occurred during the spin up of the disk. This can be caused by the disk itself or huge power load (weak power supply).
    At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further.
    It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there.
    It is recommended to backup often to prevent data loss.

Faulty components i'ts my guess or just a bad product from seagate... This one i will keep until it dies on me...

Bought it in 11.01.2009(dd.mm.yyyy)... After a year thats it... Useless...

2nd drive

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ST31000333AS -> Barracuda 7200.11 -> Iomega Select 1TB USB Case -> Back to it's original casing

Inside my computer the temperatures dropped to 21ºC with cooling... Back to it's original Iomega casing it overheats... Bad sectors number still rising...

  -- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #2: ST31000333AS --

    Hard Disk Summary
   -------------------
    Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 2
    Interface  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAT Standard USB/ATA
    Vendor Information . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VID: 059B, PID: 0475
    Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ST31000333AS
    Firmware Revision  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : CC4H
    Hard Disk Serial Number  . . . . . . . . . . . . : 9TE1RNR3
    Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 953867 MB
    Power State  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
    Current Temperature  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 47 °C (Overheat)
    Maximum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 48 °C, 11-03-2010 04:43:29
    Minimum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 41 °C, 11-03-2010 02:11:33
    Maximum Temperature (During Entire Lifespan) . . : 57 °C
    Power On Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 71 days, 8 hours
    Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : 34 days
    Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ##------------------ 14 % (Bad)
    Performance  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)

    There are 766 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area.
    At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further.
    It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there.
    It is recommended to backup immediately to prevent data loss.

This one is dying really fast.... I will try to replace with another drive if possible from another brand... I don't want another faulty seagate to replace a faulty seagate...

Bought this drive in 14.06.2009(dd.mm.yyyy), worked for 71 days, 8 hours and thats it... Useless... Yeat another bad product from seagate...

Well, i guess i will not get another drive from seagate ever again...

Thank you

[nmoreira]

Other drives i have

  -- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #3: SAMSUNG HD400LD --

    Hard Disk Summary
   -------------------
    Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 3
    Interface  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : IDE/ATA
    Disk Controller  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : NDAS Miniport Controller (IDE)
    Disk Location  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bus Number 0, Target ID 0, LUN 0
    Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SAMSUNG HD400LD
    Firmware Revision  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : WQ100-14
    Hard Disk Serial Number  . . . . . . . . . . . . : S0AXJ1PP120700
    Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 381551 MB
    Power State  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
    Current Temperature  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 22 °C
    Maximum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 22 °C, 11-03-2010 02:11:33
    Minimum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 15 °C, 11-03-2010 04:43:29
    Maximum Temperature (During Entire Lifespan) . . : 39 °C
    Power On Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 520 days, 13 hours
    Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : more than 1000 days
    Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)
    Performance  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ##########---------- 50 % (Fair)

    The hard disk is operating in PIO mode which reduces performance. It is recommended to check and replace data cable or modify the configuration.
    The hard disk status is PERFECT. Problematic or weak sectors were not found and there are no spin up or data transfer errors.
      No actions needed.

-- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #1: Maxtor 6V300F0 --

    Hard Disk Summary
   -------------------
    Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1
    Interface  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : S-ATA II
    Disk Controller  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (ATA)
    Disk Location  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Channel 0, Target 0, Lun 0, Device: 0
    Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Maxtor 6V300F0
    Firmware Revision  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VA111630
    Hard Disk Serial Number  . . . . . . . . . . . . : V60DNVGG
    Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 286181 MB
    Power State  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
    Current Temperature  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 25 °C
    Maximum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 32 °C, 10-03-2010 03:08:59
    Minimum Temperature (Ever Measured)  . . . . . . : 14 °C, 10-03-2010 07:57:14
    Maximum Temperature (During Entire Lifespan) . . : 56 °C
    Power On Time  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1118 days, 5 hours
    Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : more than 706 days
    Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)
    Performance  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ###################- 99 % (Excellent)

    The hard disk status is PERFECT. Problematic or weak sectors were not found and there are no spin up or data transfer errors.
      No actions needed.

[nmoreira]

I send today the Iomega Select 1TB (ST31000333AS) for repair... If in 30 days i don't get a phone call the store will provide me with a brand new HD... Hope so...