GoFlex Net & GoFlex Home

[kenji57]

Thanks for the update SPE101. I have been meaning to try it out on Linux since I saw this thread, but I am not seeing the problem in Windows or Android.

I don't use the Seagate software but have no problems mapping GFH shares in Win7 and XP.

On my Android tab I use FileManagerHD and and can browse files on my GFH and I can create a bookmark to the network drive. I agree that is not the same as mounting or mapping a drive and whether an app can read directly to and from a network location depends on the app, but I haven't had any issues with accessing my files from the tablet.

Maybe I don't understand what it is you are trying to do.

[kenji57]

I fired up my Linux Machine and had no problem accessing my GFH over wifi  smb://goflex_home/

Maybe I'm still missing the point but I have no problem accessing files on my GFH over my LAN with Windows, Linux or Android.

Edit: OK I think I get it now, I can't create a link in Linux. Unfortunately Ubuntu Karmic Koala repositories are no longer available so I cant get smbfs to test further until I upgrade. 

In Android, you're saying that even with root you can't mount a network folder and access it like a local one, right?

It was the bit where you said  "could not map to the shared drives manually on windows..." that threw me off track

[kenji57]

OK once I sorted out my Linux machine I had no trouble mounting a folder on my GFH in Linux 12 using the GUI.

Just connect to server smb://goflex_home/  and enter credentials then right click on a folder and mount. The mounted folder is available in applications as you'd expect.

command line instructions are pretty unforgiving if you don't get the syntax exactly right, but I don't think there's any "tricky-ness" in mapping mounting in Windows/Linux on the part of Seagate or the GFH firmware from Axentra and I'm not usually shy about criticising them.

Did you try the Android CIFS app? I'm tempted to try it out

[farmeralex]

Apropos the final entry on your two pages of text regarding the "GoFlex Home and Linux mount as cifs" starting at http://forums.seagate.com/t5/GoFlex-Net-GoFlex-Home/GoFlex-Home-and-Linux-mount-as-cifs/td-p/74127:-

I have tried MOST of the methods listed in these pages to connect to a GoFlexNet device on my local NAT'ed network (10.0.0.0:255.255.255.0), using the IP address as the device address to mount, with no success.

Using konqueror (file browser) and the "smb://ipaddress/" - I get an errormessage "Timeout on server ipaddress".

Using command line I get the following:-

      sudo mount -t cifs //10.0.0.3/home /mnt/NAS --verbose -o user=guest

      Error messsage;- Unable to find suitable address.

      sudo mount.cifs //10.0.0.3/home /mnt/NAS --verbose -o user=guest port=4365

      Error messsage;- Unable to find suitable address.

I am running Debian 6 patched to the latest.

I can ping the device, so the device is 'alive' on the local network.

Are these problems related to the pogoplug registration 'hogging' the device?

I bought this for securing MY data on MY network, and NOT sharing MY data across the www with ANYONE!  For this reason I will be unregistering with pogoplug, but at this time, using their interface, is the only way in which I can 'see' what is on the drive.

Why am I not able to access this device using Linux across my local network and store my data on it, (without using the www to do so) - the purpose for which is purchased in the first place.

Thanks

Alex

[kenji57_?]

Hi Alex,

this thread was about the Goflex Home -  you have a Goflex Net, which is a different device.

I'm pretty sure that Linux should be able to connect to both (if windows can) but I don't have any experience with the Goflex Net.

btw, your link doesn't work because it has included the  :-  as part of the link.

cheers

Update: I see this in the Goflex Net user guide. It should be very similar in Linux

Accessing GoFlex Net Without Using the Pogoplug Service (Mac)
You can access the drives connected to GoFlex Net from the Network window (without using the Pogoplug Web interface). Follow these steps to set up local network access.
1. Select Go from the menu bar at the top of the desktop.
2. Select Network from the menu.
3. Double-click Seagategroup.
4. Locate and then double-click the name associated with your GoFlex Net.
NOTE: Your GoFlex Net name starts with the letters “FADS” followed by the last six alphanumeric characters of its MAC address. This 12 digit address, preceded by “MAC:”, is printed on the label on the bottom of GoFlex Net.
5. If prompted, select the volume for the drive connected to GoFlex Net.
6. If an authentication screen displays asking for a password, click OK (you do not need to enter a password).

The volume is added to your desktop. Double-click the volume to access the devices connected to GoFlex Net.

[farmeralex]

Thanks for that info. I have tried that with no success.


I can manage the GoFlexNet from my router and have enabled the following service from the router:-

     BearShare
    FTP Server
    HTTP Server (World Wide Web)
    Microsoft Remote Desktop
    Secure Shell Server (SSH)
    Server
    Steam Games


where 'Server' has TCP & UDP port translation from 4365 to 4365 on both.


I have also configured my firestarter (soft) Firewall as follows:-

     File;- /etc/firestarter/inbound/allow-from

                   10.0.0.3, NAS

     File;- /etc/firestarter/inbound/allow-service

                    NAS, 4365, 10.0.0.3, NAS
                   Samba (SMB), 137-139 445, 10.0.0.3, NAS
                   FTP, 20-21, 10.0.0.3, NAS
                   HTTP, 80, 10.0.0.3, NAS
                   HTTPS, 443, 10.0.0.3, NAS
                   NFS, 111 2049, 10.0.0.3, NAS


Still I get the following error messages:-

                   From the command line:-

                                    sudo mount -t cifs 10.0.0.3:/home /mnt/NAS -o user=guest --verbose
                                    Password:
                                    mount.cifs kernel mount options: ip=10.0.0.3,unc=\\10.0.0.3\home,,ver=1,user=guest,pass=********
                                    Unable to find suitable address.


                 From within a file / web browser (several different ones) trying to browse the 'network neighbourhood'

                                   Clicking on the "Samba Shares" as is shwon the the network folders section of the browsers

                                                    Error: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an                                                    enabled firewall.

                                  Clicking on the Pogoplug device which shows in the network folders, I get the following error:

                                                   Internal Error
                                                   Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org
                                                   Unknown error condition in stat: Unknown error 8216


Am I to assume that this GoFlexNet, which, on much of the documentation on the web, seemed to indicate that it can operate with 'other' operating systems, especially as one is supposed to be able to mount ext2/ext3 (linux) format disks, is actually useless on a linux only network.


Come on Seagate!  Are you that much in the back pocket of vendors of the expensive, virus and malware ridden systems?  Surely you can do better than that???  You were once a vendor of integrity, are you still???


Or am I in the wrong place to be asking Seagte any of this sort of question?


I look forward to a response.


Thanks


Alex

[kenji57_?]

Do  you have the smbfs package installed?

If Seagategroup isn't showing up in your network then there is something basic wrong.

The whole point of samba is that it works with various OS's and the Goflex Net user guide indicates that it supports samba. As I wrote before, I have a Goflex Home rather than a Goflex Net, but have no problem connecting with Linux or Android.

[kenji57_?]

Have you enabled Windows File Sharing (for WFS read samba) in the pogoplug Web user interface?

http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/214491en

[farmeralex]

kenji57_?

> Have you enabled Windows File Sharing (for WFS read samba) in the pogoplug Web user interface?

Thank you - it worked.  You are an absolute LEGEND!!! 

No, I had not tried this yet.  Doing it allows me to see the contents of the drive in konqueror (file & web browser) to create a file in my home folder / directory.  Thank YOU!!!  This product was about 30 hours from being packed up in its box for return to vendor.

Now comes the $64000 question:-

Since the pogoplug subscription 'dies' after some time (unless we part with our hard-earned AGAIN & AGAIN ad nauseum), is there a way that this can be accomplished WITHOUT the need for venturing into Wonderland (pogoland) every time I want to add another drive / upgrade to larger capacity drives / replace dead drives etc. etc.?

Thanks once again for your expertise in this regard.

Respectful regards

Alex

[kenji57_?]

I'm pretty sure the basic pogoplug service doesn't expire. There are additional, "cloud" services that are subscription based.

I just logged into my own pogoplug account that I haven't used for almost a year and it is still active.

But as far as I know, you need to go to pogoplug.com to change configuration. I don't think the device has its own web server, but I could be wrong. You could try disconnecting your router from the internet and then trying to access the Web User Interface.