Momentus XT, Momentus, Momentus Thin, MobileMax, and other notebook drives

[WiseDrive]

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Now the truth (or claimed truth) comes out.

STATEMENT"

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KrypteX wrote:

The "very large" file corruption bug has been shown to occur on pre-SD26 firmwares on ALL operationg systems (Windows, Linux, MacOS), and also for SMALL files.

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ACTUAL CLAIM:

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KrypteX wrote:

I tested firmwares SD24, SD25, SD26 and SD28 under Windows XP SP3 32bit and openSUSE 64bit. Ironclaw and others did the same for Linux and MacOS.

We showed that firmwares SD24-SD25 corrupt files (small and large, under all OSs)

SD26 and SD28 are OK. (though SD26 has its SSD disabled..., behaving as a simple mechanical drive).

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OS NOT TESTED:

Windows VIsta

Windows 7

In other words, two of the most commonly used OS that support 90% of the machines XT is destined fro is left out of the equation.

Yet the poster falsely claims, "The "very large" file corruption bug has been shown to occur on pre-SD26 firmwares on ALL operationg systems (Windows, Linux, MacOS), and also for SMALL files."

Furthermore, freezes and lags are not file corruption

I have experienced ZERO issues of file corruption with Windows 7 both 32 and 64 bit versions.

Sidenote:  Windows XP (any version) is in my judgment, unsuitable / unfit for a modern Hybrid AND SSD unless it is heavily patched / tweaked.

If you want to see lags, freezes, and hangs, run any consumer grade SSD more than 2 years old without its own device drivers on an unpatched Windows XP.

[ajarmoniuk]

FACT

You have not experienced errors does not mean your setup is not susceptible to them as you did not perform the tests mentioned there.

FACT 

System requirements for Momentus XT list: Windows® 2000 Pro, Windows® XP, Windows Vista®, Windows® 7:

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/internal-storage/momentus-xt-kit/

[KrypteX]

WiseDrive, you seem to always want to be right. Even if you didn't actually test an MXT drive with issues. Your drives are perfect, as always, you don't use any SSD, no Windows XP for you, ok, I understand.

OK, let's get down to it. First of all, stop being so pushy.

Second of all: Ironclaw, others, and me, tested several firmwares. Not everybody tested all firmwares, of course (maybe you'll do them...). Ironclaw showed that pre-SD26 firmwares create file coruption (small and large files) under several Linux distributions and MacOS.

Concerning myself, I did tests on SD24,SD25,SD26 and SD28 (pre-SD24 were not my concern and I doubt a lot of people use those). The tests were done under Linux (openSUSE 64 bit), Windows XP SP3 32 bit, XPSP3 64bit and Windows 7 64 bit. Under all these OSs I showed clearly that SD24 and SD25 are corrupting files. SD26 and SD28 do not. My observations are in line with Ironclaw's results.

Maybe you should actually read the posts here and don't reply quickly just for the sake of replying and trolling around. So, please go back and read these threads (and don't confuse people):

http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentus-XT-Momentus-Momentus/Momentus-XT-corrupting-large-files-Linux/...

http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentus-XT-Momentus-Momentus/Momentus-XT-1-2-second-lag-freeze/td-p/12...

Or maybe you would like to do the tests yourself ?

If you didn't see corrupted files, that doesn't prove anything. Read the 2 threads fully and then you'll understand.

Cheers, mate.

[KrypteX]

Thanks, ajarmoniuk, it was time for someone to stay by my side on this one. I remember it took me like 1 week of heavy testing with these MXT drives. I did it thoroughly, confirmed Ironclaw's results under Windows. Did talk with madnj and the conclusion is clear:

pre-SD26 firmware corrupts files under ALL OSs. That's the truth. If you don't believe me, run your system on SD25 for some time and be happy with your BSODs and messed up files. I don't know how can ANYBODY be OK with such a drive. Now, really.... We live in 2011. Not 1970 when people played around (or maybe not) with damaged files.

I wish Ironclaw would write a few lines here. I'll PM him. Let's see who's right and who's not.

[Klok]

Hey,

I remember reading this thread and what i found to be the must shocking was the part where Seagate refused to acknowledge/inform their customer regarding the bug. And still now, if anyone follow WiseDrive advice without reading further, they get stock in a heck as it is inconsistent, doing a fresh install + restoration operation might or might not trigger the bug, considering pre-SD26 firmware.

This is just a side note, but if you really think about the Flash Cache argument, in the case of a undetected failed cache, MXT will be slower than a normal 7200 because of the update required on every read and write. And that is just one possible scenario. If i had think more before buying, there is no way that Seagate would have got my money, and that even in the case of a possible future replacement.

Take note that i currently only got a regular 750gb 7200 as a replacement for my MXT and the trouble i had with it. I don't want to take my loss on this one and i do understand you Kryptex. It is just sometime far better to let WiseDrive do his king attitude on this forum because it is clearly far worse than any negative publicity we can make to Seagate. Also, no matter how many question i ask him, he never reply directly.

Anyway, Just my 2 cents..

Klok

PS: Joni, do you need my contact information??

[KrypteX]

Klok, If I were you, I'd be pleased with a 750 GB, 7200 drive, instead of a damaged MXT@500. Thanks for your input !

[Klok]

Don't expect news for the next 2 week,

I guess it will be for the beginning of January.

Klok